and my governor will in louisiana must have taken 20 trips to different states and cities during the republican convention that was going on and he still lost. i'm independent. i didn't really care who won. i'm independent. i feel like as republican is for the rich white your democrat for the poor blacks independents is for everybody. i don't care. the -- host: the question the specific question for our guest? guest: the specific question is why do you have to cut spending that's going to help the poor and help the people that's in need in health care and help people that get into trouble and all that? guest: one of the thing that is you'll see if you look at the budgets of states across the country, certainly my states, most across the country over the last many years the amount of money that we spend on health care specifically which i think is what the caller was asking about has been increasing significantly. and it's a challenge. and because of that and the fact that we have limited resources at the state level unlike at the federal level where they can just essentially borrow t